Article: <5c0pjs$74j@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com>
From: saquo@ix.netcom.com(Nancy )
Subject: Re: GRAVITY - the Zetas Explain
Date: 20 Jan 1997 21:55:08 GMT
In article <5blp2u$s6t@pollux.cmc.doe.ca> Greg Neill
writes:
>>>> (Begin ZetaTalk[TM])
>>>> You are presenting two sides of a math equation,
in
>>>> essence, that was DESIGNED to balance! THAT'S
why
>>>> the two calculated forces agree.
>>>
>>> The centrepital force relationship can be easily
measured
>>> in experiments here on earth (high school students
do this
>>> with string, weight, and spring scale). I then
showed how,
>>> based upon actual data from our solar system, the
two forces
>>> happen to balance for each of the planets.
>>> ynecgan@cmc.doe.ca (Greg Neill)
>>
>> (Begin ZetaTalk[TM])
>> High school experiments with centrifugal force are NOT
>> scientific, : nor do they in any way measure the
equality in
>> forces! ... the centrifugal force is continually
reinforced by
>> pulling from the student's arm,
>
> No, in experiments I've seen (and done) the string is passed
> through a small opening in a stationary, flat, horizontal
table.
> The weight is caused to rotate circularly at the end of the
string.
> The tension in the string then represents the centrepital
force.
> ynecgan@cmc.doe.ca (Greg Neill)
(Begin ZetaTalk[TM])
Are you being deliberately dense? Are we pretending here that
because the tug is caused by the edge of an opening in the center
of a table that this differs from the hand at the end of a
student's arm? The weight at the end of the string is being
THROWN in either case, jerked from a stationary position at a
length away from the center and prevented from continuing a
forward motion by being centered to either the student or table.
You're missing something in your explaination. You say
"the weight is caused to rotate circularly at the end of the
string". Caused to rotate? Everyone meditates and wishes
real hard? An external force begins the motion, in any case
THROWING the weight in a direction, and thereafter continuing the
throw in some manner by tugging on the string attached to the
center, else the experiment is very short lived.
(End ZetaTalk[TM])
In article <5blp2u$s6t@pollux.cmc.doe.ca> Greg Neill
writes:
>> (Begin ZetaTalk[TM])
>> the simulated gravity attraction of a sun is done by a
string
>> that is fixed and cannot reflect variability.
>
> No, gravity is not being measured. Centrepital force is. As
> an aside though, no variablility is seen in the centrepital
force
> either. The experiment verifies the equation for centrepital
force
> ynecgan@cmc.doe.ca (Greg Neill)
(Begin ZetaTalk[TM])
Wrong, wrong, wrong! This experiment was cited by you as PROOF
that centrifugal force is what keeps the planets a distance from
the sun! As a COUNTER FORCE to gravity. Must you cut everything
up into little pieces in order to contemplate it at all? Take in
the WHOLE SCOPE! How fast must the center turn, dragging the
object about it, for a given weight to pull at the end of the
string. THIS is what you're offering up! Its truly a nothing, and
has such little relationship to what goes on between the planets
and their sun to be not worth mentioning. Yet this is the
cornerstone of your argument! There is NO RELATIONSHIP!
(End ZetaTalk[TM])